tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7781646534201708629.post57660533632001040..comments2024-01-08T00:08:53.008+00:00Comments on ombhurbhuva: Freedom of the Will in Advaitaombhurbhuvahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07789523088428270027noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7781646534201708629.post-77049191340162716762012-04-12T08:46:13.498+01:002012-04-12T08:46:13.498+01:00That ‘container/contained’ idea which seemed to me...That ‘container/contained’ idea which seemed to me to have been thought up in the moment of writing the post I discover in Bergson’s <i>Time and Free Will</i> which I read previously. He uses it in relation to intensity of feeling or sensation which can give rise to the notion of more and less i.e. quantity, thus container/contained dyad. He proposes that the feeling of sensation is a matter of quality rather than quantity. He doesn’t deny that the spatialisation of mental life can be useful for language but says that it is misleading as an ontological account. Mental states do not succeed each other in a spatialised mind.<br /><br />To co-opt from the Vedic matrix; this is the fundamental maya for Bergson.<br /><br />Svatantrya: This is a concept from Kasmir Shavism which is interesting in its own right. The advaitins c.f. http://www.advaita-vedanta.org/articles/The_Riddle_of_Fate_and_Free.htm<br />do not deny free will as a practical basis for conduct but reject it at the higher level.<br />Ashtavakara Samhita: XVIII.30: The mind of the liberated one is neither troubled nor pleased; it is actionless and motionless, desireless and free from doubts.ombhurbhuvahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07789523088428270027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7781646534201708629.post-69293767967438686732012-04-11T20:17:36.518+01:002012-04-11T20:17:36.518+01:00Very interesting post. Thanks for the remark about...Very interesting post. Thanks for the remark about container and contained. I look forward for the post on compatibilism. <br />Do you think "freedom" is a good translation for svatantrya, in this context?elisa freschihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17068583874519657894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7781646534201708629.post-91430957742293936492012-04-09T23:59:49.624+01:002012-04-09T23:59:49.624+01:00I like to think of the entity in the world as the ...I like to think of the entity in the world as the brain-mind aka the person. This is pervaded by consciousness in a non-dual way as the advaitins put it. That is to say we can separate the two (brainmind/consciousness) conceptually but not in reality. This philosophical position is a transcendental one which is to say that it is a philosophical projection of how things must be for things to appear as they do. Information is inseparable from the being of things. Even prior to the Speculative folk this was a commonplace of the panpsychic position. The major question for metaphysics is : how does that object out there somehow come to be ‘in’ me and yet be known as out there? Psychology can proceed perfectly well without a theory about this but there are many interesting questions about blindsight and other phenomena. Where does consciousness stop, does processing in the brain have a certain ripeness before it falls as information? Obviously the senses are the main tools of our safe navigation through a hazardous world and so we would expect that once the processing hits those limits, becoming a touch, as sight etc., consciousness would be there. But the results of sight without the experience of sight, that’s strange. Can that be a theory changer?ombhurbhuvahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07789523088428270027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7781646534201708629.post-21788300331632522602012-04-09T22:25:27.771+01:002012-04-09T22:25:27.771+01:00"States of mind are not objects in the scient..."States of mind are not objects in the scientific sense and it is the position of Bergson that states of mind are all different and are never repeated."<br /><br />I think so too. The brain viewed as a hunk of meat is a static object, but as a bodily organ it continuously undergoes changes in activation. <br /><br />Regarding the possible distinction between brain and mind... Let's presume, based on contemporary neuroscience and neurophilosophy, that the brain maintains an ongoing status report on the world, on the body, and on the mind. The brain uses sensory inputs to assemble an internal representation of the world. But unless I'm hallucinating or dreaming, the brain's representation corresponds or points to a world outside of the brain and the senses. So too with bodily status: the brain assembles a representation of pain in my left small toe, but (unless I'm an amputee with phantom limb pain) the brain's representation corresponds or points to an area of my body outside of the brain. Couldn't an argument be made about the brain-mind relationship as well? The brain creates an ongoing representation of the mind. But just as the world and the body exist apart from the brain's representations of them, so too perhaps does the mind exist independently of the brain's representation of it.ktismaticshttp://ktismatics.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com